I’ve already said way too much about something I know absolutely nothing about. It’s time for me to shut up now. I wish you all the best in today’s crazy crazy world. Stay safe! 💜🙏
Sigh. I thought you had written recently you had enlisted some help moderating this place. After spending several days brawling in the muck with these deluded morons, it does not appear there is much, if any, moderating going on.
If you're in the market for some help, I volunteer for service. You shouldn't have to see this shit anymore. I have a day job but would absolutely dedicate as much time and effort I could, as often as possible, to help clean this place up. This insanity needs to stop.
PS I hope nothing I did caused you more trouble. I was hoping if they got challenged some they'd leave on their own. They won't. Flabbergasted none see their own place in the ongoing issues you are still experiencing. One claims to be writing a book or something about this kind of stuff too. I'm sorry you're still forced to deal with all this crap.
You are lying to yourself with this "abuse" and "victimhood" bullshit, Mike. None of that helps you. In fact, it hurts you tremendously. It keeps you stuck in the past forever. You had a short relationship that didn't work out. You should have long moved on from this. You try to keep her in your life by this nonsensical "she's abusing me". After a year and a half of this nonsense the only "evidence" you provided is benign screen shots of self help quotes she posted on social media that may or may not have to do with you. The quotes could be something that resonated with her. You post self help quotes all the time. Who are you to demand she can't do what you're allowed to do? Regardless, THIS is what your ruining your life for? You constantly torment Valerie Bertinelli with "Wait until I tell you all how horrible she is all the secrets she told me about her family in the essay I'll post tomorrow". You tortured her with this bullshit for over a year! You even used her son in your "revenge porn" against her! No woman deserves to be abused because a weak man can't handle his imaginary buttons being pushed. I cannot get over how you want your son to see your character flaws publicly exposed like this! This is how he'll remember you and that's a shame.
I am not a deluded moron. I’m a person who paid $50 to read the writings of Mike G. I’ve been interested in what is being said here. Obviously it is not how this space started out. And apparently it seems to be because of one person, although it doesn’t seem very obvious to some of us. There seems to be a feud going on between two private individuals although I believe you are stating that it is Ms. Bertinelli’s fault that all of this is happening. Again, I’m just a random person who got pulled into World War lll between Mike and Val. Perhaps they should duke it out in the town square so we can all go on?
I'm very sorry you and your children had to suffer through that. No one should have to. Mike included.
Assuming everything we've read up to now is true, what should he do to get her to stop? What is the correct answer? How does he get the results he needs when she is still doing this to him a year & a half later?
To me, she seriously seems to have an "if I can't have him, I'll ruin him for everyone" attitude. She wanted to publicly continue her "Eddie & I were soulmates" fantasy, which was apparently somehow for the benefit of her married adult son (??), at the same time she was telling Mike he was her soulmate. Come on, now. How would that work? He broke it off with her as a result. She has been flailing wildly publicly & privately since but everybody only attacks him.
The rollercoaster ride started before we knew who "she" was. I'd really love for others to read her books that I read to see if they come away with the same concerns I did. Keep in mind, I read these when she was on her last tour. While the "I'm in looooove again" couch-jumping was actively in progress. The fact he told us of the rollercoaster, and that he might get hurt, before they even saw each other in person for the very first time was pretty prophetic in my opinion. And here we are.
I think the book will be very important and necessary and may even help Mike to navigate this very very awful period of his life. Isn’t that all of our motivation really? To find answers, not to make sense of something because how could you ever make sense of someone you love being so cruel and hurtful. I hope Mike finds his answers. I’m sorry he had to go through this at all. And I would like to say that I will be very happy to buy your book when it comes out. I will not be buying Ms. Bertinelli’s book. She seems to duck and cover after saying certain things. God bless all of you for taking a chance and speaking up here. I have learned a lot. I really have. So thank you all.
I don’t know how to put this-there’s something not real about her comments. Obviously I don’t know her. I just feel that I would not feel totally at ease in her presence. Just a vibe. Doesn’t really mean a thing.
Interesting you think he should just grin and bear it when his livelihood is at stake. This isn't two internet nobody randos popping off about each other. What evs. Enjoy your husband.
It sounds wonderful! Congratulations on turning something that was so crushing into a great lesson and path forward. I look forward to reading your book and watching your movie. Blessings to you and your happy family. We keep going don’t we? Women just fucking keep going!!!
Really weird you guys keep coming here to attack the *victim* rather than going over to her place to attack the *abuser* but, then again, there are SO MANY things I find weird about this whole affair.
I think there have been many positive conversations here about all kinds of abuse from subtle to outright harmful. What I have noticed is that none of the other women have done any name calling of the commentators-although I’m sure there’s been some things said about Mike. If anything haven’t we learned that men can be verbally and physically abused just as much as women although historically it has been women who have been crushed like tiny little bugs. I want to praise the women who have come forward to share their stories. Powerful. And to you Mike-your stories matter. I hope at some point you will feel free to join these conversations. As you started this entire important dialogue.
Their stories are powerful and matter. His story is powerful and matters. It will be nice once this place can be a safe space for them, and him, again.
Whatever happens Mike, I hope you will keep writing. You have helped a lot of people. I think it’s something about our common pain. In the meantime, I have about ten more months of my $50 and I hope to enjoy more of your perspective on life and hardships and joy. After all, how much time do we really have left. And what do I want to do with it. I myself am going to go out and help anyone I can find. I hope you will do what makes you the happiest. You deserve it. We all do. Good luck Mike! 🙏😎♥️
Thank you! I’ve had my share of some really really dark times. And I’m grateful to still be here. I wish good days for everyone (except Trump-I kid I kid!) I think we all want to be happy and at peace.
I would just like to repeat that I was happy to find Mike here. Immediately became a paying subscriber. I was kind of surprised when every post except one was about VB. I haven’t followed her in decades. I’ve said this here before. I knew they had a short romance but was surprised Mike has continued with his posts all about her. At first I went along with him, but then it just became a long drawn out “in my next post I will tell you what she did”. What did she actually do to have you say that she’s still trying to ruin his life. Breakups are hard and can get vicious. Mike, can you give us even one example of how she’s trying to ruin you right NOW. So we can end this. Just one current thing she’s done, and I’ll go away.
I don’t know Mike or Valerie Bertinelli. I’ve never been to their houses for dinner, taken a walk, or met either of their sons. I don’t know their mothers or their exes. What I have done is pay $50 to read the writings of MG. I like his writing. I paid the $50 because he asked for help. I believe this is an unprecedented time in our country and world. I have to admit, it hurts my heart. In some ways, the writings between these two people reflects the world at large. Strike retreat sprinkle in some hate lick wounds nap. I’m gonna hitch a ride on the hope train. Before I die I’m gonna do as much of that as possible. 🙏😎🐎
I think what I have learned from reading all of Mike’s stories about Valerie Bertinellli is how much someone can be hurt by comments and behavior and how much we can actually hate someone. It’s so sad isn’t it? Obviously I don’t know either of them. I wasn’t present to the experiences. But I have been hurt and I have in fact hurt people. All of it is soul crushing. I don’t have any smart ass remarks or grand words of wisdom.
Mike, I really enjoy your writing. I have been a paid subscriber twice, due to your way with words, and I was perfectly willing to give you a “penny for your thoughts”. Over a week ago, I cancelled my paid subscription again. It seemed like every time I subscribed, you promised another post soon, but then you went silent. Don’t get me wrong; I know that writing doesn’t always flow effortlessly like a spigot. However, I am older and on Social Security, so I have to be careful with my money. This is my first time on Substack since I cancelled, so I was surprised to see all of your posts. In fact, I am not done reading them all yet! I truly want to support your efforts to provide yourself an income with your writing. I am resubscribing again. I hope that you can understand my situation. I wish you healing and wellness, and I don’t judge you at all. I am glad that I never had to expose my life, my mistakes, and my deepest thoughts to earn a living! I take what you say as an honest recounting of your experiences, and I know nothing about that third party other than the perception from television. Peace and love to you.❤️
While i was fully aware of the parasocial nature of the "relationship" with a writer like you, i was and probably still am quite naive about the personal safety aspects a person in the (even semi-) public eye has to take into account.
I remember those Twitter days. That’s where I found you. The irony, for me, is that my (quite new) husband and I would send your tweets to each other…until he betrayed me in ways that very much remind me of your own experiences. Ironic, huh?! And so terribly sad.
I love that you’re back and writing again. It parallels my similar comeback.
Eeking and leaking I call it. Take care Mike. Sending thanks from the downest under x
This note is in response to your next post. I followed you on Twitter during that time. Your intellect and insight during the first regime helped carry me through. I don’t remember the online jousting with the subject of your post but I do know you always could back any of your comments with a deep cache of receipts. Gotta wonder if he still defends his opinions as fervently after all of these years and the recent revelations. So glad you are reclaiming your space!
I’ve already said way too much about something I know absolutely nothing about. It’s time for me to shut up now. I wish you all the best in today’s crazy crazy world. Stay safe! 💜🙏
Hi Mike.
Sigh. I thought you had written recently you had enlisted some help moderating this place. After spending several days brawling in the muck with these deluded morons, it does not appear there is much, if any, moderating going on.
If you're in the market for some help, I volunteer for service. You shouldn't have to see this shit anymore. I have a day job but would absolutely dedicate as much time and effort I could, as often as possible, to help clean this place up. This insanity needs to stop.
PS I hope nothing I did caused you more trouble. I was hoping if they got challenged some they'd leave on their own. They won't. Flabbergasted none see their own place in the ongoing issues you are still experiencing. One claims to be writing a book or something about this kind of stuff too. I'm sorry you're still forced to deal with all this crap.
You are lying to yourself with this "abuse" and "victimhood" bullshit, Mike. None of that helps you. In fact, it hurts you tremendously. It keeps you stuck in the past forever. You had a short relationship that didn't work out. You should have long moved on from this. You try to keep her in your life by this nonsensical "she's abusing me". After a year and a half of this nonsense the only "evidence" you provided is benign screen shots of self help quotes she posted on social media that may or may not have to do with you. The quotes could be something that resonated with her. You post self help quotes all the time. Who are you to demand she can't do what you're allowed to do? Regardless, THIS is what your ruining your life for? You constantly torment Valerie Bertinelli with "Wait until I tell you all how horrible she is all the secrets she told me about her family in the essay I'll post tomorrow". You tortured her with this bullshit for over a year! You even used her son in your "revenge porn" against her! No woman deserves to be abused because a weak man can't handle his imaginary buttons being pushed. I cannot get over how you want your son to see your character flaws publicly exposed like this! This is how he'll remember you and that's a shame.
🥴
Still not Mike. So glad I figured this picture thing out. Here I am saying hello from the Stone Pony in Asbury Park! No Bruce that night though.🤷♀️
I am not a deluded moron. I’m a person who paid $50 to read the writings of Mike G. I’ve been interested in what is being said here. Obviously it is not how this space started out. And apparently it seems to be because of one person, although it doesn’t seem very obvious to some of us. There seems to be a feud going on between two private individuals although I believe you are stating that it is Ms. Bertinelli’s fault that all of this is happening. Again, I’m just a random person who got pulled into World War lll between Mike and Val. Perhaps they should duke it out in the town square so we can all go on?
Apology for the delay. I'm at the eye doctor.
I was not referring to you PJ!
💜
Thank you for speaking your truth. It helped me a lot. 💜🙏
I'm very sorry you and your children had to suffer through that. No one should have to. Mike included.
Assuming everything we've read up to now is true, what should he do to get her to stop? What is the correct answer? How does he get the results he needs when she is still doing this to him a year & a half later?
To me, she seriously seems to have an "if I can't have him, I'll ruin him for everyone" attitude. She wanted to publicly continue her "Eddie & I were soulmates" fantasy, which was apparently somehow for the benefit of her married adult son (??), at the same time she was telling Mike he was her soulmate. Come on, now. How would that work? He broke it off with her as a result. She has been flailing wildly publicly & privately since but everybody only attacks him.
The rollercoaster ride started before we knew who "she" was. I'd really love for others to read her books that I read to see if they come away with the same concerns I did. Keep in mind, I read these when she was on her last tour. While the "I'm in looooove again" couch-jumping was actively in progress. The fact he told us of the rollercoaster, and that he might get hurt, before they even saw each other in person for the very first time was pretty prophetic in my opinion. And here we are.
I think the book will be very important and necessary and may even help Mike to navigate this very very awful period of his life. Isn’t that all of our motivation really? To find answers, not to make sense of something because how could you ever make sense of someone you love being so cruel and hurtful. I hope Mike finds his answers. I’m sorry he had to go through this at all. And I would like to say that I will be very happy to buy your book when it comes out. I will not be buying Ms. Bertinelli’s book. She seems to duck and cover after saying certain things. God bless all of you for taking a chance and speaking up here. I have learned a lot. I really have. So thank you all.
I don’t know how to put this-there’s something not real about her comments. Obviously I don’t know her. I just feel that I would not feel totally at ease in her presence. Just a vibe. Doesn’t really mean a thing.
Interesting you think he should just grin and bear it when his livelihood is at stake. This isn't two internet nobody randos popping off about each other. What evs. Enjoy your husband.
No one is saying grin and bear it. Everyone is saying self love is the way out.
It sounds wonderful! Congratulations on turning something that was so crushing into a great lesson and path forward. I look forward to reading your book and watching your movie. Blessings to you and your happy family. We keep going don’t we? Women just fucking keep going!!!
Really weird you guys keep coming here to attack the *victim* rather than going over to her place to attack the *abuser* but, then again, there are SO MANY things I find weird about this whole affair.
I think there have been many positive conversations here about all kinds of abuse from subtle to outright harmful. What I have noticed is that none of the other women have done any name calling of the commentators-although I’m sure there’s been some things said about Mike. If anything haven’t we learned that men can be verbally and physically abused just as much as women although historically it has been women who have been crushed like tiny little bugs. I want to praise the women who have come forward to share their stories. Powerful. And to you Mike-your stories matter. I hope at some point you will feel free to join these conversations. As you started this entire important dialogue.
Their stories are powerful and matter. His story is powerful and matters. It will be nice once this place can be a safe space for them, and him, again.
💜
Whatever happens Mike, I hope you will keep writing. You have helped a lot of people. I think it’s something about our common pain. In the meantime, I have about ten more months of my $50 and I hope to enjoy more of your perspective on life and hardships and joy. After all, how much time do we really have left. And what do I want to do with it. I myself am going to go out and help anyone I can find. I hope you will do what makes you the happiest. You deserve it. We all do. Good luck Mike! 🙏😎♥️
Thank you! I’ve had my share of some really really dark times. And I’m grateful to still be here. I wish good days for everyone (except Trump-I kid I kid!) I think we all want to be happy and at peace.
As a side note after our government starts bombing Iran:
Nothing says peace prize like bombing a country to avoid what’s behind the curtain.
May peace find us once again and protect all innocent parties……🙏❤️
She doesn’t need our help, but Hoarse/Cat/Democrat does. Don’t be hatin’.
I would just like to repeat that I was happy to find Mike here. Immediately became a paying subscriber. I was kind of surprised when every post except one was about VB. I haven’t followed her in decades. I’ve said this here before. I knew they had a short romance but was surprised Mike has continued with his posts all about her. At first I went along with him, but then it just became a long drawn out “in my next post I will tell you what she did”. What did she actually do to have you say that she’s still trying to ruin his life. Breakups are hard and can get vicious. Mike, can you give us even one example of how she’s trying to ruin you right NOW. So we can end this. Just one current thing she’s done, and I’ll go away.
Yes Mike for god’s sakes did she laugh at you during sex or what???! Explain please explain!!!!
I don’t know Mike or Valerie Bertinelli. I’ve never been to their houses for dinner, taken a walk, or met either of their sons. I don’t know their mothers or their exes. What I have done is pay $50 to read the writings of MG. I like his writing. I paid the $50 because he asked for help. I believe this is an unprecedented time in our country and world. I have to admit, it hurts my heart. In some ways, the writings between these two people reflects the world at large. Strike retreat sprinkle in some hate lick wounds nap. I’m gonna hitch a ride on the hope train. Before I die I’m gonna do as much of that as possible. 🙏😎🐎
I really think you should not let unpaid subscribers comment. Carry on.
But I REALLY think that paid subscribers SHOULD be able to comment.
I think what I have learned from reading all of Mike’s stories about Valerie Bertinellli is how much someone can be hurt by comments and behavior and how much we can actually hate someone. It’s so sad isn’t it? Obviously I don’t know either of them. I wasn’t present to the experiences. But I have been hurt and I have in fact hurt people. All of it is soul crushing. I don’t have any smart ass remarks or grand words of wisdom.
Mike, I really enjoy your writing. I have been a paid subscriber twice, due to your way with words, and I was perfectly willing to give you a “penny for your thoughts”. Over a week ago, I cancelled my paid subscription again. It seemed like every time I subscribed, you promised another post soon, but then you went silent. Don’t get me wrong; I know that writing doesn’t always flow effortlessly like a spigot. However, I am older and on Social Security, so I have to be careful with my money. This is my first time on Substack since I cancelled, so I was surprised to see all of your posts. In fact, I am not done reading them all yet! I truly want to support your efforts to provide yourself an income with your writing. I am resubscribing again. I hope that you can understand my situation. I wish you healing and wellness, and I don’t judge you at all. I am glad that I never had to expose my life, my mistakes, and my deepest thoughts to earn a living! I take what you say as an honest recounting of your experiences, and I know nothing about that third party other than the perception from television. Peace and love to you.❤️
ALWAYS the victim!
Don’t you notice a pattern here?
Oh, please. Don’t start me. I’m on vacation.
Regarding your stalker seeing you as a villain, I can definitely confirm that you aren't because I haven't seen you at any of the meetings. :P
While i was fully aware of the parasocial nature of the "relationship" with a writer like you, i was and probably still am quite naive about the personal safety aspects a person in the (even semi-) public eye has to take into account.
Consider my mind boggled - in a good way.
Ahhhh, the twitter days. I followed you for quite some time over there.
I remember those Twitter days. That’s where I found you. The irony, for me, is that my (quite new) husband and I would send your tweets to each other…until he betrayed me in ways that very much remind me of your own experiences. Ironic, huh?! And so terribly sad.
I love that you’re back and writing again. It parallels my similar comeback.
Eeking and leaking I call it. Take care Mike. Sending thanks from the downest under x
This note is in response to your next post. I followed you on Twitter during that time. Your intellect and insight during the first regime helped carry me through. I don’t remember the online jousting with the subject of your post but I do know you always could back any of your comments with a deep cache of receipts. Gotta wonder if he still defends his opinions as fervently after all of these years and the recent revelations. So glad you are reclaiming your space!